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How to Build a Relationship Foundation in 30 Minutes

Recently, while perusing discussions on my LinkedIn groups, I saw a statement that can only be described as a doozy:  another sales trainer posted, “I can teach you to build a relationship, based on trust, that will last a lifetime, and accomplish that within a 30 minute sales call.”  Wow.  That’s quite a statement.  And let me make a statement, as well:  I cannot teach you how, within a 30 minute sales call, to build a lifetime relationship based on trust.

Of course, I suspect that the author of the statement can’t do so either.  In fact, I’m sure he can’t; earning a lifetime’s worth of trust cannot be done within 30 minutes.  People simply don’t work that way.  However, if your sights and your goals are set correctly, you can accomplish some important things in a 30 minute sales call.  Let’s talk about what they are.

Establish Dialogue:  The first task on any sales interaction is to generate a comfortable dialogue for both parties.  Any sales interaction begins with fear on both parties’ sides.  Your customer has a fear of making a bad deal, or at a minimum, wasting time.  You have a fear of not selling and not succeeding.  Within the first 30 minutes, you can put at least some of those fears to the side.  The fear creates a wall between the two of you; if that wall isn’t lower by the time you leave than it was when you started, you’ve missed something somewhere.

Become Memorable:  One of the most difficult aspects of selling is being remembered when you’re not in front of the buyer.  We all like to think that we are incredibly distinctive and memorable people, and that not only will our customers remember us, they love us after meeting us.  It isn’t so.  Years ago, I did an exercise with a company I was working for.  In this exercise, we surveyed customers that had been seen the prior week by salespeople.  We simply asked them if they recalled being seen by a salesperson from our company, who the person was, and what stood out about the conversation. (I should point out that my sales force was the top branch in the country for this company.)

The results were sobering.  60% remembered being seen by one of our people.  Less than 50% could recall a name.  Only about 25% could remember any of the conversation.  However, invariably, when someone did recall the conversation, their recollection was that the salesperson “asked a lot of tough questions.”  This is what makes you memorable to your customers – asking questions that get inside their heads.

Deposit into your Emotional Bank Account:  The Emotional Bank Account is at the center of all of your relationships.  Essentially, the EBA is a measurement of how much “equity” you have earned with the other person.  We are constantly making deposits and withdrawals in our EBA’s; the key is to maintain a positive balance by making more deposits than withdrawals.  We make deposits by making positive gestures toward the other person.  We make withdrawals by asking things of the other person that might be unpleasant, tough, or uncomfortable for them.  In the first 30 minutes, it’s critical to begin making deposits into the EBA; if your balance is zero or negative at the end of the first 30 minutes, your customer is likely to close your account.

Gain Understanding of your Buyer:  One of your first tasks as a salesperson is to begin to understand your buyer – and by that, I mean understanding his/her perspective and worldview as it pertains to business dealings.  You do that by asking good questions about your buyer’s background, the things they enjoy about their work, and good big-picture questions about the company itself.

Align Yourself With Your Buyer:  As important as understanding your buyer is aligning yourself with your buyer.  When the sales call starts, one of the buyer’s assumptions is that you and he are on opposite sides of the table, and not necessarily working in the same direction to a common goal.  You’re a salesperson, and the perception of a salesperson is that of someone who is trying to “push” a product or service off on the buyer without significant regard for the buyer’s well-being and interests.  You can communicate, through word and deed, that you are on the buyer’s side and that you are working in the same direction.

(Maybe) Generate an Opportunity:  This one depends greatly upon your offerings and sales environment – but, yes, it is possible to generate an opportunity for a proposal or even an initial order on a 30-minute sales call.  What’s important is to keep this in perspective; even if you have generated actual business in 30 minutes, it does not mean that you have generated that “lifetime” relationship.  It means that you have generated enough trust with your buyer to give you a tryout; what you do from there will determine if you ever have that opportunity to build a lifelong relationship.

Why Sales Ethics Matter More Now Than Ever

“Well, you know how salespeople are.”

That casual dismissal of unethical behavior makes my blood boil, and if you’re a professional salesperson, it should make yours boil too. Recently, one of my clients shared a story about a purchase gone wrong – the system they bought simply couldn’t do what the salesperson promised. When confronted, the vendor’s manager laughed it off with that infuriating phrase above, as if lying to customers is just part of doing business.

Let’s be crystal clear: It’s not. And it never should be.

For too long, our profession has carried the burden of a reputation we didn’t all earn, but one that too many of our colleagues have contributed to. We’ve all heard the stereotypes: the used car salesman, the snake oil peddler, the smooth-talking charlatan. They’ve become movie tropes, memes, cultural references.  And frankly, it sucks.  While unethical operators represent a minority in our profession, their impact on public trust has been devastating.

But here’s the fact: Every time a salesperson oversells capabilities, hides limitations, or obscures terms in an agreement, they’re not just burning one bridge – they’re torching the foundation of trust that every other salesperson depends on, including you and me. They’re making every future sale harder for everyone else in our profession.

So let’s talk about what ethical selling really means, because it’s not just about feeling good – it’s about building sustainable, lasting business relationships and maintaining professional integrity.

First and foremost, ethical selling demands complete candor about product capabilities. If your software can’t handle multi-currency transactions, say so. If your delivery times are typically three weeks instead of two, be upfront about it. If your service has limitations under certain conditions, make those clear. Yes, you might lose some sales. But here’s the truth: You should lose those sales. Because a sale based on deception isn’t a sale – it’s a time bomb waiting to explode.  Sales based on deception are bad business – and bad business ends up sucking our time, our resources, and our souls.

Consider this: When you’re honest about what your product can’t do, something important happens. Your credibility about what it can do skyrockets. Customers begin to trust not just your product claims but your guidance as well. And that trust? It’s worth its weight in gold.

Let’s break down the core principles of ethical selling:

  1. Complete Transparency: Never hide or minimize limitations, costs, or terms. If there’s something the customer should know to make an informed decision, share it – whether they ask or not.
  2. Customer-Centric Decision Making: If a product isn’t a good fit, say so. Yes, you might give up a commission, but you’ll gain something far more valuable: a reputation for integrity.  Some of my best, most profitable customer relationships have begun with a “no sale” because what they were interested in at the time wasn’t a fit.  Customers remember that, and they’ll come back when it is a fit.
  3. Promise Management: Never make promises you’re not 100% certain you can keep. “I’ll check and get back to you” is always better than a commitment you might have to walk back.
  4. Documentation: Get everything in writing, not to protect yourself, but to ensure crystal clear communication about what was promised and what will be delivered.

Here’s what happens when we all embrace these principles: The entire profession benefits. Customer trust increases. The sales process becomes more efficient because we’re not wasting time dancing around limitations or managing unrealistic expectations. And most importantly, we build sustainable, long-term relationships instead of one-off transactions.

But there’s another aspect to this that rarely gets discussed: The toll that unethical behavior takes on the salesperson themselves. Every lie, every omission, every “slight exaggeration” creates cognitive dissonance. It chips away at self-respect. It makes it harder to look customers in the eye. It creates stress, because those salespeople have to remember what they said (something you don’t have to do when you tell the truth, as my Granddad used to tell me). And ultimately, it makes the job harder and less rewarding.

To those who say, “But I’ll lose sales if I’m totally honest” – yes, you might lose some deals in the short term. But think about this: How many referrals do you get from angry customers who discovered they were misled? How many repeat sales come from clients who feel they were deceived? The math is simple: Short-term gains from dishonesty never outweigh the long-term benefits of integrity.

For sales leaders reading this: Your role in this is crucial. If you’re laughing off unethical behavior or tacitly encouraging it through your compensation structures or sales cultures, you’re part of the problem. Create environments where ethical behavior is rewarded, where candor is celebrated, and where long-term customer relationships matter more than short-term gains.

I should add here that attempting to deceive, in this day and age, is largely a futile exercise.  There are just too many ways to do due diligence now, and lies are usually – not always – discovered before the sale (yes, I know that my client is an example of when it doesn’t happen).  I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:  You can embrace transparency or have it forced upon you.

As a related issue, we used to say, “Treat someone well, and they’ll tell someone.  Treat someone badly, and they’ll tell ten people.”  That was in those ancient pre-Internet days.  Now it’s, “Treat someone well, and they’ll tell someone. Treat them badly, and they’ll tell the whole world,” because people now have the ability to do so through social media, reviews, etc.

The future of our profession depends on raising the bar on ethical behavior. Every interaction with a customer is an opportunity to either reinforce or challenge those negative stereotypes about salespeople. Choose wisely. Because at the end of the day, “You know how salespeople are” should be a phrase that brings to mind professionalism, integrity, and trust – not a knowing chuckle about deception.

Our profession deserves better. Our customers deserve better. And frankly, we should demand better of ourselves.

Success With Younger Buyers Means Flipping the Script.

I’ve been in sales quite a while.  And when I started in sales, the rule I was taught was that “People buy from people they like; get to know about their kids and their hobbies, and you will be able to sell to them.”  Well, that’s changed. Younger buyers – Milllennials and Gen-Zers – are moving into positions of buying authority, and their yardstick for a successful seller isn’t about finding common personal interests, but rather about solving business problems. We’re in the midst of a seismic shift in how relationships are built in the sales world, and if you’re not adapting, you’re falling behind.

For decades, the mantra in sales has been “build personal relationships first.” We’ve all been there – talking about golf, kids, or the latest binge-worthy TV show before even mentioning our product or service. Or, worse, the old “fish on the wall” sales tactic (barf).  And for a long time, this worked, especially with Boomer and older Gen X buyers. But times are changing, and so are buyer preferences. Nobody is going to give you 30 minutes to talk about football before you start addressing their work issues.

Enter the era of business-based relationship building. Younger buyers – late Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z – are flipping the script. They want you to prove your worth by addressing their business needs first. Only then will they consider developing a personal relationship with you.  In my opinion, that’s because younger buyers are more focused on work/life balance.  And to have better balance, you have to get more done during the working hours.  Hence, the old “fish on the wall” salesperson just is perceived as a time-waster.

This shift is leaving many seasoned salespeople scratching their heads. It’s a complete reversal of everything they’ve been taught. I’ve written before about how the “Good Time Charlie” salespeople are obsolete – but obsolescence is a choice. It just requires a change in approach and mindset.  And that change is to move toward business-based relationship building.

So, what exactly is business-based relationship building? At its core, it’s about leading with value. It’s showing potential clients that you understand their business challenges and have the expertise to solve them. Only after you’ve demonstrated your worth do you earn the right to form a more personal connection.

Here are some key strategies to help you make this crucial shift:

  1. Do Your Homework: Before any interaction, research your prospect’s company thoroughly. Understand their industry, challenges, and opportunities. This knowledge will allow you to speak their language from the get-go.
  2. Ask GREAT business-based questions.  Forget questions about what sports their kids play, where they like to fish, or how many hot rods they have (OK, I guess I get asked that one more than the average buyer.  The number is six. Don’t judge.)  If you want to build rapport, use what I call the “personal professional” questions.  For instance, one of my favorites is, “How did you come to be in this position?”  It allows the buyer to tell his or her story, without being personally intrusive.
  3. Lead with Insights: Instead of small talk, open your presentation with insights about their business or industry, and how they (and you) fit into it. Show that you’ve done your research and have something meaningful to contribute.
  4. Focus on Problem-Solving: Frame your product or service in terms of how it solves specific business problems. Be prepared to demonstrate ROI and tangible benefits.  This is where mental agility becomes paramount.
  5. Be a Resource: Share relevant articles, whitepapers, or case studies that address their business needs. Position yourself as a valuable source of information, not just a salesperson.  It’s even better if those resources are generated by you or your company’s staff.
  6. Respect Their Time: Younger buyers often prefer efficient, to-the-point interactions. Be prepared to get down to business quickly and respect their busy schedules.  Think “value per minute” of customer face-time.  I get it.  It’s a mind-shift from past techniques, but it works.
  7. Use Technology Wisely: Leverage digital tools for initial outreach and follow-ups. Many younger buyers prefer email or LinkedIn messages to phone calls for initial contact.  If your buyer only wants to text, get good at texting! Learn how to write a persuasive message in 240 characters or less.
  8. Build Trust Through Expertise: Demonstrate your industry knowledge and thought leadership. Blog posts, speaking engagements, or active participation in industry forums can help establish your credibility.  Even a well thought out LinkedIn post that shares a best practice you’ve seen can be helpful.
  9. Be Authentic: While the focus is on business, don’t completely abandon your personality. Authenticity comes through in everything you do.  For instance, don’t just follow a list of questions that someone else wrote – take the time to create your own questions and put them in your words.  This is how I train salespeople, and in my opinion, it’s the best way for salespeople to be authentically themselves.
  10. Adapt Your Communication Style: Be prepared to switch between formal and informal communication styles based on the buyer’s preference. Pay attention to their cues.

Remember, this shift doesn’t mean personal relationships are dead in sales. Far from it. It simply means that with younger buyers, you need to earn the right to that personal relationship by proving your business value first.  Full disclosure – I’ve always been this way, both as a seller and as a buyer.

Sales is changing.  We have to change too. By embracing business-based relationship building, you’re not just keeping up with the times – you’re positioning yourself as a valuable partner in your clients’ success. And in the end, isn’t that what great salesmanship is all about?

So, are you ready to flip the script and lead with business value? Your next generation of clients is waiting.

When Will AI Replace Salespeople?

Are you getting sick of me talking about AI yet?  Too bad.  I wrote my first article about AI and its impact on sales a year and a half ago, and if there’s ever been a moving target, it’s early-stage AI.  Most of us think of consumer-accessible AI as “new,” because the first really accessible app (ChatGPT) was released in November 2022.  But AI isn’t new.  In fact, I watched an old episode of “Magnum, P.I” (the Tom Selleck version), and a 1985 plot line was about a guy who had developed an artificial intelligence technology that the bad guys were trying to steal.

Since then, I’ve written about how to use ChatGPT and still be authentic, I’ve done videos comparing ChatGPT with Claude (which is now my platform of choice), and I’ve even done a live demo of how I use AI as a social media tool.  Some of my early work seems very elementary now, but I’m leaving it up because it shows the rapid evolution.  As AI technology advances, many in the sales world are wondering about its impact on our profession. While some fear job displacement, the reality is more nuanced. Let’s examine the current state of AI in sales and its potential future implications.

Recent AI developments have indeed been impressive. We now have technology that can simulate a person’s voice, facial expressions, and even knowledge base to conduct video calls. I saw this technology demonstrated live and in person in Las Vegas in June of 2024.  This might seem like a threat to traditional sales roles at first glance. However, these technologies still have significant limitations.

For instance, many AI systems currently have noticeable delays in response times. The technology that I saw in Vegas had a consistent 4-second lag in response times (I timed it). A 4-second lag between questions and answers might not seem like much, but in a sales conversation, it can be the difference between closing a deal and losing a prospect’s interest. Sales often requires quick thinking and real-time responsiveness, areas where human salespeople still have a clear advantage.  When I talk about prospecting messaging, I talk about “beat the delete” and how you have 10-15 seconds to grab the prospect’s attention.  That short time span doesn’t go away in a video call, and if the tech is using 4 of those seconds to “think,” it puts roadblocks into the works.

Moreover, sales is about more than just conveying information or maintaining a conversation. It involves reading subtle cues, adapting to unexpected situations, and building genuine connections. These are complex, nuanced skills that AI has yet to master.  In fact, it may never master those skills – not that developers aren’t trying.

That said, AI could potentially replace certain types of sales roles, particularly those that are highly scripted or focused primarily on information delivery. Salespeople who rely solely on reciting product features without adding personal value may find their positions at risk.  I’ve maintained for some time that AI technology will be able to replace a mediocre salesperson sooner rather than later.  This has stirred some controversy.

For instance, when I say this in speeches, I’ve been challenged with:  “Troy, why would you want a mediocre salesperson?  Wouldn’t you want good to great salespeople, and therefore not an AI bot?”

Well, of course you’d want that.  But there are a variety of reasons why a business owner might choose AI.  First of all, the sales talent pool isn’t growing; it’s shrinking.  Top salespeople are getting harder to find, as are top prospects.  When you find them, they tend to be more expensive.  For the business owner who has trouble affording those top prospects or top performers, AI technology can be really appealing – especially considering that AI never calls in sick, doesn’t take lunch breaks, and doesn’t even need sleep.  But, again, I don’t foresee AI being able to replace top performers (or even mid-level performers) in the near future, or even middle future.  Way down the road?  I can’t predict.

However, top-performing salespeople who excel at relationship-building, problem-solving, and strategic thinking are likely to remain irreplaceable, at least in the near future. These professionals bring a level of empathy, creativity, and adaptability that current AI systems cannot match.

So, where does that leave us with respect to AI?  In my opinion, you should see it as a powerful tool to enhance your capabilities. AI can handle time-consuming tasks like data analysis, lead scoring, and initial prospect outreach, freeing up salespeople to focus on high-value activities that require human touch.

The key for sales professionals is to adapt and evolve alongside AI technology. This means developing and honing skills that AI can’t easily replicate: emotional intelligence, complex problem-solving, and the ability to build trust and rapport with clients.  In fact, I’m going to repeat my advice here from that very first AI article I wrote:  Get good, or better, at the things that AI can’t do.

  1. Get better at your job.The key for salespeople in this environment is to constantly learn, develop, add new skills, and shed old techniques that aren’t working anymore.  Unfortunately, few salespeople do this.  When I interview salespeople on behalf of my clients, I always ask, “What’s the most recent sales book you’ve read?”  Ten years ago, I got a good answer more than half the time.  Today, it’s rare that I get one at all – in fact, about half of the salespeople I interview have never read a book on selling.  When I ask a follow up question about how they develop their skills, they answer that they really don’t.  Sales is a profession of constant change and constant development, and if you don’t care enough about your profession to get better at it, you are replaceable.  Don’t be that guy or gal.  Invest in yourself.  Read books.  Read articles.  Watch YouTube videos.  Attend training programs.  And then practice, practice, practice.  Get better and do better.
  2. Embrace technology.Yes, this article is partially telling you how to combat a new technology, but those who do not embrace it will find themselves steamrolled by it.  I’m constantly amazed when I see salespeople (and worse, sales trainers) fighting the use of tech like CRM.  I have actually seen a “sales trainer” recommending that salespeople ditch the CRM and instead use paper note cards.  The 1990s called, and they would like their mentality back!  Today, salespeople must embrace and use tech of all types.  CRM, social media, video conferencing, and IM’s are all tech that salespeople should not only be conversant with, but competent in.  Not only that, you should be ready and anticipating the next trend.  There’s a reason that I refer to “AI” in this article for the most part, and not “ChatGPT.”  ChatGPT is but one AI app, and who knows whether it will be the most prominent in five years?  Remember MySpace?
  3. Flip the script.We always like to think about the “Sales process,” and what we want from the process and what activities we will be performing to get there. I want to challenge you, and I’m taking this challenge myself.  Stop thinking about “Sales processes” and instead think of the “buyer’s journey.”  Think about the act of selling from the perspective of the person buying, evaluate the steps from the buyer’s point of view, and work to help them achieve what they want.  It’s a change in thought and terminology, and I’m doing my best to help you get there with articles, videos, webinars, and I’ve even rewritten my sales training to reflect this change.

In conclusion, while AI will undoubtedly change the sales profession, it’s unlikely to completely replace skilled salespeople in the near future. Instead, we’re moving towards a hybrid model where AI augments human capabilities. The most successful salespeople will be those who embrace this change, continuously upgrade their skills, and learn to work seamlessly with AI tools to deliver superior value to their clients.

The future of sales isn’t about humans versus machines, but rather humans and machines working together to achieve better outcomes. As with any technological shift, those who adapt and evolve will thrive in this new era of AI-enhanced sales.

How to Demonstrate Character as a Salesperson

What if I told you that the #1 characteristic for being a good salesperson is simply – to be a decent human being?  We have opportunities to demonstrate character, or lack of character, every day in our selling careers.  Our success or failure in those opportunities will, over the long run, determine our career trajectory. I can train a lot of things, but I can’t train someone to be a good person.

I had an opportunity to think about this recently while doing a Hiring Assistance project with a client.  I interviewed a person for a position with a client, and despite doing two interviews and vetting his credentials, I couldn’t bring myself to forward him to my client as a finalist.  I couldn’t put my finger on why – and then he called me.  He demanded (not asked) to know if he was a finalist.  When I informed him that he wasn’t, explaining that it was a tough competition and while I appreciated his time and application but he was not, in my opinion, the best fit for the position, he hung up on me.  And then it hit me why I didn’t submit him along – I had found him to be a little bit of a jerk in the interviews; not bad enough to cut the interviews short but enough that I didn’t end one with a positive feeling.  And regardless of credentials, if someone isn’t basically a good person, I couldn’t recommend him to my clients – because sooner or later he might be hanging up on a customer or co-worker.

As I said, we all have opportunities to demonstrate character in our sales world, and I’d like to discuss some indicators of good or bad character:

How you treat people whom you perceive are no help:

This is a big one.  The reason that the man I mentioned above hung up on me was that I was of no further use to him, and if I was of no use to him, it wasn’t worth the niceties to keep a relationship whole.  I get that, and I’m no angel, either.  I’ve dismissed interviews within 10 minutes before.  The key is that I always attempt to do so politely.  Same way with networking contacts, etc.  Again, I’m not perfect, but I always hope that making the attempt counts for something; and I think it does.  People know when you’re trying to do the right thing, and when you’re not.  The classic “how you treat the server and the janitor” falls into this category, as well.  The candidate could have thanked me for the opportunity, kept the relationship live, and I might have recommended him for a different job.  But he didn’t, and the bridge is burned.

How you treat your co-workers:  We all have our “triggers,” but this is one of mine.  One of the common old tropes about salespeople is that, “aw, the best salespeople are really difficult people to work with, they don’t treat co-workers nicely, and you just have to deal with it.”  Bull. Good people are good people, and they treat people with respect – even when those people have disappointed them.  Years ago, as a sales manager, I had an issue with a production supervisor over a big mistake she made that caused a big problem with a brand new customer.  When I went to talk to her, her explanation made no sense, and it was clear that she just wasn’t thinking when she and her staff made the mistake.

Well, if you know me, I do have a bit of a temper (although I’ve mellowed since then).  Some pretty insulting comments immediately rushed to my mind and one nearly escaped my mouth.  Instead, what I said to her was, “Give me a second to run to the restroom and then we’ll talk about this.”  I didn’t have the call of nature, but I knew that if I didn’t take a couple of minutes to compose myself, I was going to turn a bad situation into a very bad one.  I walked away, got a drink of water, and when I came back, I approached the problem as a “we” situation instead of a “you” situation, but I also made sure that she knew that it was a big mistake and that I very much hoped that it wouldn’t happen again.  And it didn’t.

How you confront problems:  Think about this situation; you have an angry customer, and you know it.  Do you confront the problem head-on by calling or meeting with the customer, or do you duck and run?  Ducking and running might be comfortable, but it is seldom the best solution.  You will gain respect, even from people who are dissatisfied with your performance, if you confront problems head-on.  There’s another piece of this, too, and I call it the “4:30 phone call.”  Let’s say your customer has a problem, it’s the end of the day, and you don’t have a resolution.  The instinct is to not call the customer, because you have nothing new to tell them.  That’s the wrong move.  If you don’t at least touch base, the customer will go home and stew over the problem and they will just get madder and madder, and even if you do have a fix in the morning, they won’t like it – or you.  The best path is to call and say, “Hey, they haven’t gotten back to me with an answer yet, but I want you to know I’m on it and we’ll get it handled.”  The customer just needs to know that their problem has become your problem.

Truthfulness:  I had an interesting exercise a few years ago.  A very good friend of mine was applying for a selling job, and she had just been fired from her previous employer.  Neither the previous employer nor the new one was a client or had any relationship with me; however, based upon knowing her for a long time, I felt that the new job was a much better fit for her.  In any case, she asked me how to handle her recent firing when she was asked about it.  I advised her to be truthful.  Explain that she’d been fired, honestly tell the interviewer what her numbers were (they weren’t bad), and what she’d learned if anything from being fired.  She did so.  Today she is employed on what just might be her own personal dream job and successful – and I’m confident that she wouldn’t be if she’d tried to ‘spin’ the situation.  There are times when the truth is anything but convenient – but if you tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said.

You have promises to keep:  The biggest complaint about salespeople (well, besides pushiness) is that they make promises to customers and then don’t keep them.  Want to differentiate yourself?  Keep your promises!  Of course, sometimes the biggest part of keeping your promises is knowing what promises NOT to make.  I had a situation a couple of years ago where I’m pretty sure I could have sewed up a Sales Audit and a hiring assignment by simply making a commitment about the industry experience of the final candidate.  The problem is that I’m not sure I could KEEP that commitment; searches can be unpredictable, and honestly, the industry itself was very specific.  Instead, I committed to the other characteristics that were important.  Result?  I got the assignment after a couple of weeks more selling, and I got it on terms that I knew I could fulfill.  And the salesperson is still there and succeeding.  Sometimes the quick and easy route becomes hard later.

I look at this list and think that it should be obvious; unfortunately it becomes less obvious every day.  In many ways, good old fashioned character is something that has fallen out of fashion in our society.  Don’t be a victim to that trend.  Be the kind of person your customers could trust with their dogs, and you’ll be the kind of person that is very successful in selling.

How to Handle Bid Business

Recently, I was in the middle of a conversation with a business owner who has been achieving some admirable sales growth lately.  He was bragging on his sales director, who, he said, had just “won a $250,000 order by $5,000.”  When I asked him what he meant, he said that his sales director had put in a bid that was the lowest price – but by “only” $5,000.  I smiled and continued the conversation, but I was lost in thought.

You see, l don’t consider being the lowest price as “winning” the sale.  Here’s why.  To me, as someone who has been involved in and passionate about the sales profession for over 30 years, sales is a persuasive activity.  That’s what I love about it.  There’s nothing better in business than facing off against another salesperson, mano a mano, with the prize being a valued piece of business.  To win a selling contest by persuading the customer that my solution is the BEST – that’s what I have lived for in my entire career.  It’s gratifying emotionally, intellectually, and yes, financially.

I’ve never gotten that emotional charge by simply underbidding my competitor.  When you get a piece of business simply by being the lowest price – even if it was a large piece of business and the margin of victory was small – all you’ve proven is that you’re willing to take the lowest profit in order to get the business.  If there was persuasion involved, it was that you were no better that equal to the other competitors.  You qualified.  That’s all.

By now, you might think that I live in a fantasy world where no sales are decided by price.  If so, you’re wrong; I do understand that some sales are decided by price, and that sometimes, you have to pencil-whip a piece of business to get it.  I get that.  I’ve been there.  I’ve done that.  And I’m not saying that you shouldn’t do it.

What I am saying is that language matters, and it’s important to be careful how you discuss these types of sales.  When you celebrate a low-bid piece of business and refer to it as a “win,” (no matter how small the margin), you send the message to your salespeople that the way to “win” is to cut price.  This is how sales teams lose the skills of actually winning sales through persuasive means, and become simple price-cutters.

When you do engage in low-price competitions for business, there are a few things to understand:

First, understand that price-selling is a zero sum game.  Price selling is essentially playing chicken with  your competitors to see who is willing to take the lowest profit in the interest of getting the business.  The trouble with this approach is that there is (usually) a bottom beyond which price can’t be cut.  Years ago, I cost one of my competitors about $200,000 through one of these situations.  There was an online ‘reverse auction’ for the services with a large customer, and each of five competitors could bid.  We knew going in that we weren’t willing to be the lowest price, so we decided to have some fun.  The rules of the auction allowed us to lower or raise our bid at any point, so I did a little trick.  We put in an absurdly low price, watched our competitors go down into the dirt to try to match us, and then with 60 seconds left we pulled our bid and dropped the business on a competitor.  Over the 5 year contract, they lost about $200K on servicing the business.  To this day, the owner of the company growls when he sees me.

The point is that you must be willing to walk away from bad business.  That brings me to my second point.  Bad business doesn’t get better.  Every sales manager has had the experience of having a sales rep come to us and say, “Hey, boss, I know this deal looks bad now, but it will get better over the long haul.”  The trouble is that it doesn’t – when business is sold based on bottom-dollar price, it stays at bottom dollar.

The third point is that low price customers tend to be unhappy customers. When I was in the car business, we had a saying – “The higher the profit, the happier the customer.”  It was true there and it’s true everywhere else.  That’s because a higher-profit customer has been well and truly SOLD.  They have bought into you, your products, and your services, and a good foundation for a relationship has been established.  “Bid wins” seldom have that quality.

Fourth, Bid ‘wins’ aren’t loyal.  Keep in mind – if the reason they went with YOU is a low price, that’s going to be the reason you’ll lose them, too.  Someone, somewhere, will pencil-whip the numbers and come up with a lower offering, and then you’re out the door.

And finally, Bid ‘wins’ set a bad example.  Every sales manager, or business owner, works on his/her sales team to get higher prices – but you lose the moral authority to do so when you do lowball pricing.  You lose it MORE when you celebrate those ‘wins.’  Remember, your example influences your salespeople.

So, how do you thread the needle between the sometimes-necessary practice of low-bidding, and still trying to maximize your profit?

First, keep low-bidding to rare and important circumstances.

Second, have clear and justifiable reasons for low-bidding.

Third, recognize that you haven’t really built a true “relationship” with the customer, and manage accordingly.

Finally, don’t celebrate as if you really WON a sale, so as not to send incorrect signals to your sales team.

Keep those concepts in mind, and you’ll be able to occasionally grab a low-bid sale while still retaining the ability to have your salespeople achieve good profits.

What’s the Difference Between B2B and B2C Selling?

Since I started my business nearly 20 years ago (not kidding – my 20th anniversary is on September 1, please feel free to send me car stuff), I’ve specialized in Business-to-Business (B2B) selling.  I’ve only had a handful of clients in the Business-to-Consumer (B2C) world, and that’s by intent.  Frankly, I enjoy B2B more and I feel I’m better at it.  I’ve made no bones about being a B2B guy.  Most of the pages on my website spell that out.

What I haven’t done is spelled out why B2B selling differs so much from B2C.  That difference is important, because it has implications for hiring, training, and managing “crossover” salespeople – as well as significant differences that the salesperson has to remember in every call.  The steps in the Buyer’s Journey are the same – but the fundamental underpinning of the Journey (Motivation) is very different, and that affects the progression from step to step.  So, let’s identify that difference.

For most large ticket B2C sales opportunities, the sale tends to be emotionally motivated and intellectually checked.  For instance, if someone decides that they want to remodel their kitchen, it’s less likely that they’ve done a time and productivity study on their cooking habits and decided that they need to reconfigure the kitchen in order to reduce cooking time, increase food quality, and enhance the social aspect of their home.  Instead, they look around and just plain don’t like the kitchen as it is anymore.  They want nicer cabinets, newer appliances, etc.  Yes, aspects like features, convenience, and usability come into play, but those aren’t the initial motivators.  The initial motivation tends to be emotional.

What I mean by the sale being “intellectually checked” is that, once they have Investigated their needs and arrived at the Solution, the sale can hit a roadblock at the Evaluation phase.  At this point, the Buyer starts looking at their household budget, the value of their home, and other intellectual factors to ask themselves, “does this make sense?”  That’s where the sale can stall.

The emotional Motivation of B2C selling also means that the Buyer’s Journey tends to happen much more quickly than in most B2B sales.  The urgency is supplied by the Buyer’s emotions, as well as the fact that their motivating factor is basically staring them in the face every day.  The person who wants that kitchen remodel (or car, or house, or new TV, etc.) is looking at that old kitchen on a daily basis – and once they’ve seen the Solution, that kitchen looks a little worse every day.  That means that the B2C salesperson’s pipeline is a fast-moving one all on its own, and even though B2C salespeople can be some of the pushiest ones out there, they really don’t need to be.  Their Buyers are going to reach a decision pretty quickly.

On the other hand, B2B sales cycles can be weeks, months, and even years.  That’s because most B2B sales tend to be intellectually driven and emotionally and intellectually checked.  It’s a partial reversal of the B2C dynamic, but not a complete one.

Most of the time, B2B Buyer’s Journeys begin with someone in the business identifying a need for a new piece of equipment, facility, service, etc., and making at least a partial business case for it.  “If we had this new paving machine, we could add another crew, which would generate X revenue,” and so on.  The skilled B2B salesperson has a much heavier burden in the Investigation phase to help the customer identify the needs and motivating factors behind the purchase – then must tailor the Solution to those needs and achieve the customer’s definition of success.

So far, so good, right?  Here’s the biggest issue that “crossover” salespeople must confront, particularly those moving from B2C to B2B sales:

In B2B selling, the salesperson has a much more active role in helping the Buyer move from step to step through the Buyer’s Journey.

That’s because the B2B Buyer may be motivated – but the motivating factor isn’t staring that Buyer in the face every day as it is with the B2C buyer.  That new paving machine might be a great idea, and might produce amazing ROI, but it’s something that could or would be great to have.  Meanwhile, that Buyer has employees that aren’t showing up, a bulldozer breaking down, and other day-to-day factors that take him away from thinking about the new paving machine.  The proposal then sits in his inbox, getting covered up by other pieces of paper.  It’s not staring him in the face, and it sure as hell isn’t looking at him when he gets home.

The B2B salesperson then enters the “chase cycle,” which is no fun at all.  Meanwhile, the B2C seller has long since gotten their decision on that new kitchen remodel and is either scheduling the installation (because he got the sale) or moving on to the next Buyer.

What’s even funnier is that both buyers could be the same exact person at the same exact time.  The B2B buyer who repeatedly puts off a decision and is perceived as “indecisive” by the salesperson can be the same buyer that quickly says “yes” to the B2C salesperson and buys that new kitchen.  Is that because the B2C salesperson is better?  Not necessarily.

It’s because the B2B buyer can quickly lose Motivation because the need isn’t visible and urgent on a daily basis, while the B2C buyer’s Motivation stares him in the face every day.  Combine that with the fact that B2C decisions tend to initiate emotionally, and that emotional buying decisions tend to carry more urgency than intellectual ones, and it’s no wonder that the B2C selling cycles are much shorter than B2B.

“Ah, but Troy,” you’re saying, “You said that B2B buying decisions end to be emotionally checked. You didn’t explain that.  Are you going to leave me hanging?”  Nope.  The emotion that tends to slow a B2B Buyer’s Journey is FEAR.  Essentially, after the Buyer has progressed through the Investigation, Solution, and Evaluation phase, fear can set in and postpone or even kill the Decision.  That fear can be summed up in one phrase:

“What if it doesn’t work?  I might lose money/lose my job/not get the promotion/etc.”  That fear, if not alleviated, can be a sale-killer.  We’ll talk more about how to alleviate that in a future Navigator.

For now, however, let’s circle back.  What are the implications of the difference between B2C and B2B selling?

For sales leaders looking to hire a “crossover” salesperson, part of the interviewing should be assessing that salesperson’s ability to handle the different dynamic.  For a B2C salesperson crossing to B2B, the slower movement of the sales pipeline can be a morale-killer.  A B2B salesperson crossing to B2C might not understand that the motivating factors are different.  Proceed with caution.

The same goes for “crossover” sales leaders and managers.  Without significant acclimation and retraining, the sales leader can be coaching their salespeople on the wrong motivators.

If you’re selecting a sales trainer, look carefully at their writings and philosophy.  Trainers who focus heavily on customer emotion can be a bad fit for today’s B2B environment.  In fact, one of the biggest changes in selling is the decrease in emotional motivation of B2B buyers.  This has been driven by the abundance of information and technology.

I’ve heard it often said that “selling is selling.”  It’s not. At the very least, B2C and B2B salespeople are different breeds of the same animal.  We’ll talk more about some of the things I’ve discussed in future Navigators.

How to Align Your Sales Team’s Actions With Your Goals

It’s a common maxim that, in business and in sales, we get what we ask for.  That’s not true, at least normally.  The truth is that we get what we work for.  I’m not talking about working HARD – we all do that.  Nor am I talking about working SMART, because that’s a term that can be interpreted in many different ways.  I’m talking about working INTENTIONALLY, and with the end in mind.  That’s what successful business owners and managers do.

Many times, I talk to business owners who may not be getting what they ASK for – particularly in sales – but they are getting what they WORK for.  This came to mind recently when talking to a business owner who has been through three sales managers in the last five years, complaining that he couldn’t find anyone who really was able to develop salespeople.  Instead, he gets sales managers who focus their time on selling.  This wins business but it doesn’t make the company better.

In going through his past hiring efforts – from ads to interview questions – I quickly realized that he might not be getting what he asks for (he does ask for a sales manager who develops people), but he gets what he works for.  Although he recognizes that the core of sales management is developing people, when it comes time to interview and hire, he focuses on candidates’ sales ability and the time they spend closing sales.

Worse, his entire company culture is centered around selling and sales ability as the measurement of the worth of a sales manager.  His salespeople constantly consider themselves to be in a contest of sales ability with the manager, and the sales manager is evaluated based in part on the number of deals he helps close.  The compensation is heavily weighted toward individual production.  Now I ask you – in this environment, what would you do?  Would you focus on developing salespeople, or would you build your individual sales production?  I think we know the answer to that one.

Or, consider another business owner whose company sells both reconditioned machines as well as new ones.  When confronted with a low price/profit opportunity (which is a separate issue), the salespeople will lean toward selling a reconditioned machine, rather than a new one.  Why?  You’ve probably guessed it – they make more because they can generate a higher profit margin for the company and their own commissions with a reconditioned machine.  No problem, right?

Actually there’s a significant problem.  The sale of a new machine is much more valuable to the company – they get rated on the sales of new machines by the manufacturer, and they get rebates.  Every reconditioned machine sale actually works against them with their manufacturers.  Yet, they still need to have reconditioned machines available for their customers.  Again – he’s getting what he works for (or in this case, pays for).  The obvious solution is to change the compensation structure to compensate the salespeople based on the value of the sale to the company, which in this case is not necessarily the gross profit.

In both of these cases, the business owner was doing what’s common in their respective industries, but not what matched up with their company’s goals.  They were certainly working hard.  Some in their business would say that they were even working smart (admittedly, I wouldn’t).  But what they definitely weren’t doing was working intentionally and with the end in mind.  To do those things, you have to take a global, strategic view of your sales program.

Start with your eventual goals for the company.  How do you want your company to progress?  Define your goals for growth and profitability.  My favorite measurement, by the way, is profit dollar gain year-over-year. I like that number because it’s the only thing you can spend.  You can’t spend top line sales nor profit margin, but if you make $100,000 more this year than last, you have $100,000 more you can actually spend (or save, if you’re responsible like that).  Define where you want your business to go.

Next, break it down.  How do all the pieces fit together?  How many salespeople do you need in order to achieve those goals, and what level of performance do you need them to have?  Define your gaps, and figure out how to fill them.

Next, define your KPI’s (Key Performance Indicators) for every position.  Are your KPI’s matching up with what you need from the position?  If your sales manager is really a “super salesperson,” is that what you need from that position?  If not, you need to retool your KPI’s and match them up.

The point is to align all your goals and KPI’s with your needs – then work toward that with a laser focus.  In the first case we discussed, the solution for the business owner was to retool his hiring process to discover soft skills in hiring and then hire based on that.  Once that’s done, the compensation and evaluation structure needs to be aligned with the manager’s achievement in management and development, not sales production.  Finally, the salespeople need to be led to understand that the manager’s job is not to sell, but to foster the development of the salespeople.  Further, lead by example to show that everyone can learn and improve, and that the salespeople aren’t competing with the manager.

It will be hard work.  But it will also be intentional, and I have a feeling that he will get what he’s looking for.  And what he’s WORKING for.

How to Gain Trust With Customers

In a conversation a few weeks ago, I heard a phrase that, frankly, I was hoping had made it to the dumpster of old sales philosophies.  There is an antiquated mentality in sales that says “Buyers are liars.” This mindset teaches salespeople to be skeptical of everything a customer says and to never fully trust them. The logic is that if you don’t trust the customer, you won’t get taken advantage of or misled.  It’s a fear-based mentality, and as you know if you read my work, “Fear” is the worst four-letter word that starts with “F” in sales.

However, this distrustful approach is fundamentally flawed. You cannot build trust and have an authentic relationship with someone if you start from a place of skepticism and withholding trust. Trust has to be reciprocal – you have to give it in order to earn it. Salespeople who say they want their customers’ trust, but don’t extend any trust themselves, are being hypocritical.  And yet, this is something I hear a lot.  Let’s talk about how to REALLY gain trust with customers.

If you go into every sales interaction suspicious of the customer’s motives and truthfulness, the customer will pick up on that vibe. They’ll sense that you view them as a liar or adversary to be conquered rather than a relationship to cultivate. Why would they then open up, engage authentically, and place their trust in you?  Short answer:  they won’t.

The role of a salesperson should be that of a trusted advisor and solutions consultant, not someone just trying to tap the customer’s wallet, regardless of the result. When both parties enter the relationship with trust and authenticity as the foundation, better solutions are reached that serve both sides’ needs.

I’ve said before that “You can either embrace transparency or have it forced upon you.”  Well, if you want to gain trust with customers, you’d better embrace it.  In other words, you need to lead by example and be the first to extend trust to the customer. This means:

  1. Asking Open-Ended Questions & Really Listening: Too often, salespeople fall into the habit of talking at the customer instead of having a dialog. They make assumptions about what the customer needs instead of taking the time to truly understand through asking open-ended questions. Asking and sincerely listening shows you trust the customer to openly share their real needs, sources of dissatisfaction, desired future state, and thoughts.  In fact, let’s take this to another level.
  2. You must ask open ended questions, even when the answer might harm your ability to make a sale:  I’ve seen salespeople who are normally good questioners shy away from asking certain questions, because the answer might disqualify them as a solution to the customer’s needs.  Don’t do that.  “Putting yourself out there” in this way is a way to gain trust with customers – and it’s a way to avoid making deals that you’ll regret down the road.  Don’t ever be afraid to walk away from deals that will have a negative result for you or for the customer.  Many times, you’ll win that business back down the road.
  3. Being Fully Transparent About Your Business Process: Instead of obfuscating next steps or giving vague half-truths about pricing or logistics, be fully upfront and transparent about every aspect of the process. Lay out the exact path from where the customer is today to ownership and implementation of your solution. Hedge nothing. This open communication demonstrates you trust the customer can handle the full truth.  Keep in mind – your role is to help the customer navigate their Buyer’s Journey.  They already know what THEIR process is and where they are in it; you shouldn’t hide YOUR process from them (and of course, your process and their Journey should mesh).
  4. Being Upfront About Pricing & Value: Manipulative tactics like holding back pricing until the end, or overpromising value and downplaying costs, demolish trust. Be accurate and upfront from the start about pricing and quantify the concrete value/ROI. Trust the customer can make an informed decision in their own best interest.  Keep in mind:  Your customer CAN discover a price for your stuff – or your competitor’s – without a salesperson’s intervention these days due to technology.  If they have to resort to technology, you have made yourself unnecessary.  Don’t bitch when they treat you that way.

In today’s world of open information access and buyer empowerment, trying to “control” the sales process no longer works. In truth, it never really did – the customer always had the real control – but it’s definitely easier for customers to kick you out of their Buyer’s Journey now.  If you want to succeed in this world, you have to get rid of fear-based techniques, embrace transparency, build trust, and engage customers in an open and authentic sales conversation. When you lead by demonstrating mutual trust and transparency, you’ll get the right deals done – deals that make everyone happy that you did business, and deals that make the customer look forward to doing business with you again.  And isn’t that what we’re really after?

You Can’t Always Get What You Want…But In Sales, You’d Better Ask!

Sometimes, the key to success in selling is to get back to basics. I’ve talked a lot in the last few years about how the balance of power has shifted firmly towards empowered buyers. With more information at their fingertips than ever before, customers can research products, compare prices, and make informed decisions without relying heavily on salespeople. This has led some salespeople to become hesitant about taking an active role in guiding buyers through their Buyer’s Journey.

In fact, I’ll be frank. I worry that I’ve dissuaded some salespeople from remembering an essential truth of selling.  If you don’t ask for what you want, you won’t get it.  To not ask your empowered buyers to buy – or help them advance through their journey – is to abdicate your responsibility as a salesperson.

Don’t make this mistake. Even as buyers have become more empowered, your job is still crucial – to your company and to your buyers. Buyers may have more information, but that information can also be overwhelming – and in many cases, inaccurate or a bad fit for their situation. A skilled salesperson (and you are one of those, right?) who takes charge can cut through the clutter, ask the right questions, and help the buyer arrive at the best solution for their needs.

The key is that you have to be assertive without being pushy. Buyers don’t mind assertive salespeople – but pushy salespeople get eliminated from the Buyer’s Journey. You have to recognize that the buyer is in the driver’s seat, but you must also understand that the buyer often welcomes guidance. By actively participating in the buyer’s journey, the salesperson can help the customer navigate the process more efficiently and come to a decision with confidence. Your buyers will find themselves thinking (or saying) “so, where do we go from here?” quite a bit.  Be prepared to guide them.

Here are some ways salespeople can reassert themselves in the sales process:

  • Ask thoughtful questions. Dig deep to really understand the customer’s needs, challenges, and goals. Don’t just go through a surface-level qualification checklist. Uncover the underlying issues the buyer is trying to solve. I’ve said for many years that 80% of your chance to win the sale is through your questioning, and that hasn’t changed.
  • Provide valuable insights. Use your industry expertise to share perspectives the buyer may not have considered. Offer creative solutions they hadn’t thought of. Position yourself as a knowledgeable partner, not just a vendor. And don’t be afraid to provide expertise, even when it’s not directly tied to a sale.  Salespeople today must earn their spot in front of the buyer, and you do that by making the buyer a little better and more knowledgeable during every sales interaction.  Salespeople are the world’s best collectors of industry best practices – and some of the worst at sharing them.  Break that pattern.
  • Journeys need a guide. Don’t be afraid to take charge of the sales cycle. Suggest next steps, schedule follow-up meetings, and keep the buyer on track. This shows you’re invested in their success, not just making a quick sale.
  • Address objections head-on. When the buyer raises concerns, don’t dodge them. Acknowledge their doubts, then provide reassurance and evidence to overcome them. Demonstrate you’re listening and want to alleviate their fears.
  • Close confidently and directly. Don’t be afraid to ask for the business. If you’ve done the work to truly understand the buyer’s needs, you should be able to make a compelling case for why your solution is the right fit. End the sale decisively, not tentatively.

The most successful salespeople today don’t just react to the buyer’s lead – they proactively shape the sales conversation and Buyer’s Journey. They recognize that even the most informed, empowered buyer still values the salesperson’s expertise and guidance. By reasserting themselves as sources of expertise, these salespeople are able to navigate the buyer’s journey and close deals with confidence.

Of course, this assertiveness must be balanced with genuine curiosity and a customer-centric approach. The goal isn’t to strong-arm the buyer, but to collaborate with them in a way that meets their needs. If you can strike this balance, you will thrive in the new era of buyer empowerment.